Talk:Tropical Storm Andrea (2013)

Necessity of this article

At this point, I don't really see the need for this article. It doesn't really add much that can't be put in the season article. Are there any good objections to just redirecting this, at least for the time being? Inks.LWC (talk) 06:56, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

I see no need for it for the time being as well. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 11:46, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

I thought it was "jumping the gun" myself. Merge it? United States Man (talk) 12:12, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I merged it. iPhoneHurricane95 15:55, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Enough content in the article now to support it. Landfall is upcoming so information will greatly increase within the next day. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:05, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Re

Is "expected to make landfall in the Nature Coast of Florida and move up the East Coast of the United States" needed? It may be WP:NOTCBALL. iPhoneHurricane95 16:47, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Be bold and do it yourself. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 16:51, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contribs) 06:07, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

• Be careful with the usage of "Andrea" in the lead; you use it three consecutive times in the first paragraph.

• Removed one--12george1 (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• Instead of saying it "intensified into a strong tropical storm", note that it attained its peak intensity.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• " Thereafter, the storm weakened slightly and made landfall near Steinhatchee, Florida later that day. It weakened and began losing tropical characteristics while tracking across Florida, and Georgia. Andrea transitioned into an extratropical cyclone over South Carolina on June 7." - instead of "thereafter", how about "a few hours later" or give a specific time; that way you could get rid of the "later that day" at the end. Also note there is repetition...you say the storm weakened twice. Finally, once those suggestions are taken care (if you choose to take care of them), I'd suggest combining the short last sentence into the second.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• "However, the remnants continued to move along the East Coast of the United State, until being absorbed by another extratropical system just offshore Maine on June 10." - United State...? :\

• Yep, just one state :P --12george1 (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Prior to becoming a tropical cyclone, the precursor to Andrea dropped nearly 12 inches (300 mm) of rainfall in the Yucatán Peninsula" - "in" to "on".

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• "A tornado was also spawned in the area, which damaged 3 homes." - "which damaged" to "damaging".

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• "There were nine tornadoes in Florida, the worst of which touched down in The Acreage and downed power lines and trees, causing significant roof damage at several houses; there was also one injury." - "at" to "to.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• "The remnants became an extratropical storm..." - I'm not really fond about this section of the sentence.

• Better?--12george1 (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• "The remnants of east Pacific Hurricane Barbara emerged into the Bay of Campeche on May 30." - "east" should be capitalized if I'm doing grammar right.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Earlier that day, the National Hurricane Center (NHC) began monitoring the system by issuing Tropical Weather Outlook (TWOs),[2] which were bulletins issued every six hours regarding the probability of tropical cyclogenesis within 48 hours." - "Earlier" isn't needed...I'd also remove "which were" and replace "issued" with "released".

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• "On June 3, the system developed into a low-pressure area." - a low-pressure system is in association with a disturbance; the disturbance doesn't morph into a low.

• Better?--12george1 (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Due to somewhat unfavorable conditions, significant strengthening was initially considered "unlikely"." - quotation marks aren't necessary.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• "However, Andrea began strengthened and peaked attained its maximum sustained wind speed of 65 mph (100 km/h) at 1200 UTC that day." - "However" to "Despite this" and "began strengthened and peak attained" (lol) to "intensified to attain peak winds of 65 mph (100 km/h)".

• That's interesting. Usually grammar my this bad isn't :P--12george1 (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Thereafter, unfavorable conditions such as dry air entrainment caused the storm to weaken slightly." - I haven't checked anything, but I'm pretty sure it began weakening because of cooler shelf waters...?

• The TCR only mentions dry air.--12george1 (talk) 03:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

• Hmm, okay. Well, I still don't like the usage of "such as"...how about change it to "unfavorable conditions, including dry air entrainment..."?

• Alright, done--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "After moving inland on June 6,[1] the NHC noted that extratropical transition was likely within 24 hours and "could occur sooner if the convective structure does not improve."" - add "that it" before the quote.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Based on surface observations and doppler radar, Andrea transitioned into an extratropical cyclone at 1800 UTC on June 7, while located over northeastern South Carolina." - Change Andrea to "the system" to avoid using the name too much; what part of South Carolina?

• Fixed the first part. As for the matter, I said northeastern South Carolina. You want me to name the specific city or county? :P --12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Because gale force winds were located well to the southeast of the center, the NHC ceased advisories on the remnants of Andrea." - Link gale, add a dash between it and "force".

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Upon reaching the Gulf of Maine, the extratropical remnants of Andrea was absorbed by another extratropical low pressure area at 0000 UTC on June 9." - "was" to "were".

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Additionally, several states parks were closed and campers were evacuated, including at Alafia River, Anastasia, Anclote Key, Caladesi Island, Fanning Springs, Faver-Dykes, Fort Clinch,Gamble Rogers, Gold Head Branch, Highlands Hammock, Lafayette Blue Springs, Lake Manatee, Little Manatee River, Manatee Springs, O'Leno, Oscar Scherer, Paynes Prairie, Rainbow Springs, River Rise, Stephen Foster, Suwannee River, and Big and Little Talbot Island state parks." - it is unnecessary to list the state parks.

• What should I do then?--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "At Pensacola Beach, condominium associations asked residents to remove furniture from high balconies due to the anticipation of strong winds." - what are condominium associations?

• I was confused as to why you didn't know, but then I remembered that you don't live in Florida. :P They are kind of like gated community associations.--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Upon landfall, tropical storm force winds in Andrea extended outwards to a maximum of 140 mi (230 km) away from the storm center." - is this a necessary sentence?

• Removed--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Near Myakka City, a tornado damaged roofs of three single family homes, six pole barns, and four out buildings." - add "the" before "roofs"; outbuildings is one word.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Another twister spawned in Sun City Center downed trees and damaged lanais, facia, and shingles." - link lanais and facia if available.

• This is lanais and facia is actually fascia.--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Damage reached approximately $36,000, according to the Hillsborough County Department of Emergency Management." - no need to say who reported the damage total.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Andrea dropped locally heavy rainfall in some areas of West Central Florida, with a Community Collaborative Rain, Hail and Snow Network (CoCoRaHS) station observing 6.17 inches (157 mm) near Chiefland." - "inches of precipitation" just to clarify.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Minor street flooding was reported in Charlotte, Citrus, DeSoto, Hernando, Hillsborough, Levy, Manatee, Pasco, Pinellas, Sarasota, and Sumter counties." => "Minor street flooding was reported in several counties."

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 02:04, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Near the city of Coachman, the weight of saturated dead leaves on the roof of a dog kennel at the Pinellas County Humane Society caused a large section of the roof to collapse, however no dogs were reported injured." - This seems like a really unnecessary sentence.

• I don't think it is unnecessary, but it drags on a bit, I will admit. I am going to cut it a bit.--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "In East Central Florida, the storm produced about 2–3 inches (51–76 mm) of rain, with isolated totals of 5–6 inches (130–150 mm) over a three day period in Orange, Osceola, and Volusia counties." - unlink Central Florida; put a dash between "three" and "day".

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Additionally, strong winds were observed in the area, with gusts up to 83 mph (134 km/h) at the Jacksonville Beach Pier; this was the strongest wind gust associated with the storm." - just to clarify, this gust was in association with the tornado?

• Better?--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "At one home, the garage door was damaged, causing the door to blow in, which in turn lead to the roof being damaged above the garage." - "lead" to "led".

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Further, a few vehicles were moved from their original locations, while a 30 feet (9.1 m) boat was flipped on its side." - I don't think the use of "Further" is wholly appropriate here.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Precipitation peaked at 14.27 inches (362 mm) in North Miami Beach,[19] 13.96 inches (355 mm) of which fell in a 24 hour period." - dash between "24" and "hour".

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "As a result, broadcast media, local storm spotters, and city officials reported severe flooding, especially in Miami-Dade County." - necessary sentence?

• Removed--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "At North Miami Beach, a rain gauge observed 13.94 inches (354 mm) of precipitation..." - your previous sentence listed a higher total?

• I'm just gonna remove that. Long story short, WPC and NCDC reported different totals.--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• Find other words to use besides "disabled" so it's not repetitive.

• I think "stalled" would be the best substitute--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Generally light rainfall was reported across much of southern and eastern Georgia, peaking at 5.34 inches (136 mm) near Richmond Hill." - I don't think 5 inches of rain is considered "light".

• It was light overall, so I'm gonna make the peak seem like a contradiction.--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Additionally, this total exceeded the average rainfall amount for the month of June." - why is this fact memorable? Does their monthly precipitation total peak in June?

• Not sure, but it seems interesting that one storm brought more than a months worth of rain, in one day.--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "Heavy rainfall in New Jersey, amounting to more than 5 in (130 mm) in Oceanport." - Eh?

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• "bout 3 to 5 inches (76 to 127 mm) of precipitation fell throughout Rhode Island, flooding many streets, several basements and stranding a number of cars, particularly in Providence County." - comma after "basements".

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

• Reference 16 is about to expire, I suggest webciting it or finding an alternative.

• Fixed--12george1 (talk) 02:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Otherwise, a "good" article. ;) TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 01:20, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Passing. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 02:10, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

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