Talk:The Death of Captain Marvel

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✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 07:40, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Nominator: Thebiguglyalien (talk · contribs) 18:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 22:44, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
2c. it contains no original research.
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. I reviewed the top matches found using Earwig's Copyvio Detector. No concerns. Matches are titles, names, or phrases acceptable per WP:LIMITED such as "The arrival of Drax the Destroyer" and "Mar-Vell breaks the news to"
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. FUR for the cover image. Starlin image is CC and the Ars moriendi image is CC.
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
7. Overall assessment.

Happy to discuss or be challenged on any of my review comments. @Thebiguglyalien: Please bear with me for a couple of days while I see if I can refer to either the Lewis or Alaniz book for spot-checking; if I can't then I'll AGF on those. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:43, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Plot summary

  • Optionally, consider varying the start of paras (Mar-Vell records/Mar-Vell records/Mar-Vell asks)
  • I was wondering whether it would be helpful to have brief intros to Thanos, Yon-Rogg, etc in the text, but that might make it awkward to read. I suppose that most readers will assume correctly the type of characters that are mentioned.
  • Is it worth adding something about what nega-bands are?

Creation

  • The link for Critical Survey of Graphic Novels: Heroes & Superheroes is to Vol 2, but I think the relevant article is in Vol 1.
  • "Marvel Super-Heroes #12" - maybe add the year?
  • Spot check on did not achieve the popularity of Marvel's other heroes - sources have "Mar-Vell was never a popular character" and "audiences remained ambivalent throughout the 1970s." - consider re-wording as the sources don't make the comparison that almost implies that all of Marvel's other heroes were popular.
  • Spot check on The Death of Captain Marvel follows the events of Captain Marvel #34 and Marvel Spotlight #1–2 - Consider relating these issues to the relevant events from the plot summary. According to the source, "the story is a culmination of events that spanned several issues", i.e. those mentioned.
  • Optionaly, add a brief description of what the Marvel Graphic Novel line was, including the point made slightly later in the text about the paper quality.
  • Spot check on and it creates a dimensional effect by portraying Death and Mar-Vell in the foreground full tone while the other heroes are behind them in half-tone - I think "dimensional" needs to be amended to "three-dimensional" as per the source; unless "dimensional effect" is a phrase I'm just not aware of. Othewise, no issues.

Themes

  • Spot check on The Death of Captain Marvel is about the inevitability of dying and acceptance of death - no issues.
  • Spot check on The theme is reinforced by the story's title and cover art, which informs the reader of how the story must end - no issues.
  • Spot check on reflecting the growing age of comic book readers - no issues.
  • Spot check on the panels grow darker and he embraces stoicism. - no issues.
  • Spot check on Many aspects of The Death of Captain Marvel challenge traditional concepts in superhero comic books... - no issues.
  • Spot check on The Death of Captain Marvel invokes ideas that were presented in The Death of Ivan Ilyich by Leo Tolstoy, the first major work of death fiction in modernist literature. - no issues.

Reception and legacy

  • Maybe add the year for Civil War? There is some inconsistency in whether years are given after titles or not.

Sources

  • CBR and Den of Geek are, AFAIK, suitable sources. Looks like there is editorial oversight for Slings & Arrows and The Beat; they seem suitable for the info supported.
  • What makes Inside Pulse a reliable source? I was slightly put off by their Work With Us page

Infobox and Lead

  • Infobox: James Novak was the letterer rather than penciller.
  • The date has been amended from "1982" to "February 1982"; I won't insist on a source, but if there is one this could be added into the body.
  • Lead feels a little short. Consider expanding on themes, and adding a brief summary of Reception and legacy.