Talk:Seasons of Melrose Place

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Weasel Words / Non-neutral POV[edit]

There are literally dozens of weasel words in this article (and several others summarizing characters and plots regarding Melrose Place). This reads less like a neutral summary/description/explanation and more like the back of a DVD box or fan-generated content. There is lots of speculation, interpretation, and supposition going on here. It doesn't need a complete rewrite, but it does need to be scrubbed, line by line, for non-neutral words and phrases. Here are some examples:

"The sordid and mean-spirited storylines began to heat up when..."

"Hilary asked Amanda to employ her charming (but very scheming) fiancé..."

"Jo killed Reed for revenge" (flat out incorrect)

"By the start of the high-octane third season, the series became even more dark and downbeat with more mean-spirited storylines and cynical characters."

"plus every new character that is introduced turned out to be a psychotic villain of some sort,"

"Reed's cold and vindictive parents,"

"the ruthless and conniving Dr. Peter Burns"

"As Sydney realized the twisted nature of the cult,"

This goes on and on and on. It actually looks a little better than it did the last few times I checked it out, but there are so many of these non-neutral adjectives thrown in front of almost every character and event, "psychotic," "conniving," "mean-spirited,"...it's plainly not neutral. Patrick of J (talk) 09:49, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the opening of the "Season 6" is particularly atrocious. Note the long, long, LONG first sentence and the unsourced conjecture (not to mention the incorrect usage of a semi-colon) in the example below:

"By the start of the sixth season, there were signs that the series was beginning to falter as the ratings steadily dropped and long-term fans watched less and less as people felt that each season was pretty much repeating itself because all of the melodramatic and mean-spirited dark storylines were becoming increasingly absurd and tiresome with its characters getting away time and time again with lying, cheating, stealing, extortion, betrayal, infidelity, and even murder. Several of the same plotlines from previous seasons were used; friends betraying friends, spouses being unfaithful with each other, crooks stealing from other crooks, murderers killing other murderers and getting away with it, etc. New viewers quickly turned away as most felt little or no interest in watching a TV series in which all the characters are nothing but villains."

Patrick of J (talk) 10:10, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect Information[edit]

Even if the writing is somewhat questionable, some of the information here is flat out wrong.

From Season 6:

"hat story takes its turning point when Christine attempts suicide before Kyle and Amanda's wedding. Kyle abandons Amanda and saves Christine from death. Christine, affected by that, is interned in psychiatric medical area of Wilshire Hospital, is manipulated by Nick, who also is a former war partner of Kyle and the jealous Taylor. After she sends another suicide letter to Amanda, a furious Amanda appears on Christine's room and threatens her to really kill her if she goes on this way."

This is completely wrong. First of all, the fact that "Christine" isn't the real Christine isn't even mentioned. Secondly, there was never a suicide attempt. The fake Christine continually attempted to bed Kyle to no avail. She tried to back out of the situation and leave Kyle alone, but both Nick and Taylor threaten her if she doesn't continue the ruse. The fake Christine sends Amanda a letter (ostensibly for Kyle) mentioning that the two had had sex, even though they had not. Unfazed, Amanda and Kyle continue with wedding plans. Although the fake Christine still tries to leave, Taylor and Nick are relentless in their pursuit. Eventually, the fake Christine pretends to have suicidal PTSD symptoms and lands herself in the psych ward. While she's there, Amanda threatens her. Taylor and Nick force fake Christine to write a suicide note to reach Amanda on her wedding night, threatening suicide at the railroad tracks in an attempt to lure Kyle. As Nick and Taylor attempt to take fake Christine to the tracks, fake Christine breaks free and rushes to the wedding to tell Kyle the truth, namely that the real Christine is dead and that everything that's happened has been an elaborate trick orchestrated by Taylor and Nick. While running to the chapel doors, Nick tackles her and she hits her head on a car and dies. Nick and Taylor take the body to the railroad tracks and lay it in front of a train. Kyle and Amanda show up and find the body, believing themselves to be responsible for "Christine's suicide," not knowing that it was neither a suicide nor Christine until several episodes later at the end of the season.

Anyone can take what I've written and summarize it however it's best for the article, but what's currently in the article is COMPLETELY wrong. Besides not mentioning the scheme devised by Taylor and Nick, it incorrectly references a suicide attempt before the wedding (there wasn't one), incorrectly states that Kyle "abandons Amanda to save her," (nothing of the sort happened), incorrectly states the reason that "Christine" ends up in the pysch ward (she purposely put herself there; Taylor and Nick wouldn't let her exit the situation so she feigned illness in an attempt to have herself locked up), mentions that "another" suicide note was sent to Amanda (when in fact it was the first).

I'll point out other inconsistencies as I find them.

Patrick of J (talk) 10:36, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here's another one:

"Jo killed Reed for revenge"

Jo killed Reed out of self defense. Once she discovered the drugs, Reed attacked her and clearly meant to kill her in order to keep her quite, and in the midst of the attack, Jo shot him to save herself.

Patrick of J (talk) 10:38, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also from Season 6:

"Later in the season, Michael goes to his high school reunion and reunites with his first ex-wife Jane, who follows him back to L.A. and to Melrose Place... with an agenda as usual."

This didn't happen in Season 6; it happened in Season 7.

Patrick of J (talk) 10:43, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also from Season 6:

"Samantha and Jeff get together and attempt to break up Billy and Jennifer by sending a fake fax from the departed Alison in Atlanta. Jennifer is heartbroken because she is worried that he still has feelings for"

Huh? When the hell did this happen? Update: I now see that this, like much of the Season 6 summary, occurred in Season 7.

Patrick of J (talk) 10:44, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

God, whoever wrote this CLEARLY had a very poor memory of Season 6.

"Also in the season final, after Coop's failed murder attempt on Lexi's life aboard a fishing boat so he could inherit all of her father's money, which was diverted with Megan's aid who learned about his plan as well as his sham re-marriage to Lexi, he leaves town to take up a job offer with a man who previously tried to con Megan into sex, knowing of her dark past as a prostitute. "

None of this EVER happened in the "season final." Cooper DID NOT try to kill Lexi. Cooper didn't have access to the money unless he and Lexi were married, which didn't even happen until a few episodes into the SEVENTH season. The only thing going on with Cooper at the end of Season 6 was that he decided NOT to take the prestigious position in Philadelphia after one of the doctors made several advances and eventually attacked Megan.

Please people, let's get this article straightened out!

Patrick of J (talk) 10:49, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]