Talk:Palestinians

Property Losses Estimate

The last sentence of the header reads: "According to Perry Anderson, it is estimated that half of the population in the Palestinian territories are refugees and that they have collectively suffered approximately US$300 billion in property losses due to Israeli confiscations, at 2008–09 prices."

However, the *total* national wealth of neighbouring Jordan (population >10M, greater than 2x the current population of the Gaza Strip + the West Bank) is $146 billion, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_wealth. Even if property in Israel is substantially more valuable per square foot (possible), Israel's total national wealth is only $1,046 billion or $1.05 trillion (same source), and Israel is an unusually stable/rich/technologically innovative country by Middle Eastern standards so the land in an independent Palestine has no guarantee to be as valuable as land in the state of Israel.

I submit that this sentence should be removed as not credible, or at least have some sort of qualification added to it providing context (such as the total wealth of neighbouring Jordan).

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 April 2024

Change the subheading "costumes" under the section titled "culture" to "traditional clothing" Anusuyaps (talk) 20:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done I changed it to "traditional costumes", in line with the Palestinian traditional costumes article. M.Bitton (talk) 23:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Nakba

Should Nakba be mentioned/summarised and linked to in the lede? Apologies for bumbling into controversial topics here Alexanderkowal (talk) 23:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

In my view, either this:

Palestinians view the Nakba as a collective trauma that defines their national identity and political aspirations

or this

… termed the Nakba, which has greatly influenced Palestinian culture and is a core symbol of the current Palestinian national identity

needs to be in the lede. Alexanderkowal (talk) 00:08, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

I think a combination of the two Alexanderkowal (talk) 00:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Inaccurate description in the War (1947–1949) section

the section on the 1948 war says "The Palestinian Arabs suffered such a major defeat at the end of the war, that the term they use to describe the war is Nakba (the "catastrophe")" this is inaccurate, the term Nakba describes a collection of actions, by Zionist militias, that took place before, during, and even after the war, not the war itself. Shortly after that it says "Along with a military defeat, hundreds of thousands of Palestinians fled or were expelled from what became the State of Israel." this is inaccurate because the Palestinians that fled or were expelled had that happen to them before and during the war, not "along with the defeat" as this would imply it happened at the end of the war. Also the title of the section says "War (1947–1949)" but, while the Nakba lasted that long, the actual war only happened in 1948. Hexifi (talk) 21:05, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

I think these are valid points, thanks Hexifi. It seems like this article is out of synch with other related articles, e.g. Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Nakba, 1948 Palestine war, 1947–1948 civil war in Mandatory Palestine, and 1948 Arab–Israeli War. Hexifi (or anyone else not extended confirmed), please feel free to make specific edit requests in WP:EDITXY format to fix this. You may find some suitable replacement text in the other sub-articles I mentioned (or others). As this is a top-level parent article, it should basically summarize what the sub-articles say about the 1947-1949 period. Levivich (talk) 20:04, 16 May 2024 (UTC)