Talk:Not Strong Enough (Boygenius song)
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Nominator: Dylan620 (talk · contribs) 01:48, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: The Blue Rider (talk · contribs) 13:56, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Lead[edit]
- Some tone related suggestions since there are no sources backing up such phrasing:
- major success → success
- enjoyed widespread acclaim → enjoyed critical acclaim
- @The Blue Rider: Good suggestions; I've addressed this by switching the commerical tidbit to "enjoyed success" and the critical one to "was acclaimed". Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 16:52, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Background[edit]
- "had all released" sounds akward to me, maybe "each had released their respective albums"? (optional)
- Add wikilink to the three singers. (optional)
- It is worthy to clarify that The Record is an album: "...the album The Record and its..."
Writing and composition[edit]
- Add wikilink to vocal harmonies. (optional)
- Add wikilink to synthesizers. (optional)
- Add wikilink to bridge (music). (optional)
Response[edit]
Commercial performance[edit]
- Is Billboard's charts the only commercial performance that can be said about the song?
- Aside from the United States, it only charted in Ireland and on the Japan Hot Overseas chart. There isn't a direct link for each artist's performance on the JHO chart, so the only sources for that chart are the archives of each week's listing. I did find that the song spent nine non-consecutive weeks on that chart spread out over the course of nearly a year, plus it spent two non-consecutive weeks on the Ireland singles chart. I'm off to bed shortly, but I should be able to add more information tomorrow. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 00:17, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Noting that I've followed through on this. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 22:26, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Aside from the United States, it only charted in Ireland and on the Japan Hot Overseas chart. There isn't a direct link for each artist's performance on the JHO chart, so the only sources for that chart are the archives of each week's listing. I did find that the song spent nine non-consecutive weeks on that chart spread out over the course of nearly a year, plus it spent two non-consecutive weeks on the Ireland singles chart. I'm off to bed shortly, but I should be able to add more information tomorrow. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 00:17, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Critical reception[edit]
- Who is writing for Consequence?
- I have difficulties seeing this as encyclopedical: "In July 2023, Barack Obama included "Not Strong Enough" on his annual Summer Playlist, to which Dacus tweeted, "war criminal :("."
- I've removed this for now, although I should note that entering "barack obama summer playlist" into Wikipedia's search engine turned up multiple results for other songs'/artists' inclusions. The way this tidbit had been present in the article was a bit jarring, though, looking at it again. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 00:17, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Music video[edit]
- Add wikilink to tarot cards (optional).
- Specify that i-D is a magazine.
Live performances[edit]
- Specify that is Taylor Swift, for moments I thought you were talking about SWIFT.
Accolades[edit]
- Everything seems good.
Stability[edit]
- Last edited 2 days ago (1 April), no edit wars are in place, pass! The Blue Rider 18:13, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Images[edit]
- Three images: two of them with the correct copyright status and suitable captions, but I am not sure about fair rationale's of the music video screenshot, we already have other pictures that identify the articles' subject.
Sources[edit]
- The numbers of the sources are from this revision. Checked source 2, 5, 8, 14, 47, 50, 61, 62 and 70.
- Source 61 nor 62 doesn't say anything about a Santa Monica Pier.
- @The Blue Rider: Source 62 does mention the Santa Monica Pier, though :/
"Phoebe wanted the monster trucks bad," Lucy recalled. "I wanted to go to the Santa Monica Pier pretty bad because I just had never been."
I will concede that source 61 doesn't mention the SMP by name, but it does mention "hit[ting] up amusement parks", which implicitly refers to the SMP. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 16:45, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Oh my bad, I did control F to find for any mention but weirdly it didn't appear. All good, will be passing the article. The Blue Rider 18:02, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- @The Blue Rider: Source 62 does mention the Santa Monica Pier, though :/
Did you know nomination[edit]
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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 01:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- ... that "Not Strong Enough" by Boygenius (pictured) describes conflicting mental states of self-hatred and self-importance? Source: https://thefortyfive.com/news/boygenius-meaning-of-not-strong-enough/ ("Phoebe [Bridgers] has expressed it as self-hatred plus having a God complex – like, sometimes, you feel like you’re the best thing ever – and both of these states can be happening at the same time."), https://americansongwriter.com/the-meaning-behind-boygenius-grammy-nominated-not-strong-enough/ ("'Self-hatred is a god complex sometimes,' Bridgers further explained in the Genius interview")
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Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 22:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC). Interesting song GA on many and substantial sources, no copyvio obvious. I wonder if "expresses" would be a better word than "describes". The licensed image is beautiful when large, but not captivating in stamp size. In case it is not taken, I believe that the word "song" should be added to the hook for clarity that it has to do with music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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