Talk:Melbourne shuffle

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Melbourne shuffle article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1: 90 days

Australia: Melbourne High‑importance

	Australia portal Melbourne shuffle is within the scope of WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the project page.AustraliaWikipedia:WikiProject AustraliaTemplate:WikiProject AustraliaAustralia articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Melbourne (assessed as Top-importance).
	Need help improving this article? Ask a Librarian^{What's this?} at the National Library of Australia.
	The Wikimedia Australia chapter can be contacted via email to helpwikimedia.org.au for non-editorial assistance.

Rave (inactive)

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Rave, a project which is currently considered to be inactive.RaveWikipedia:WikiProject RaveTemplate:WikiProject RaveRave articles

Dance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Dance, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Dance and Dance-related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.DanceWikipedia:WikiProject DanceTemplate:WikiProject DanceDance articles

WikiProject Dance To-do list:

To nominate at WP:FAC:
To improve to Featured standard:
To nominate as a Good article:
To expand: 18th century dance - 20th century ballet - Bolero - Choreography on Broadway - Dance education - English ballet - Indian classical dance - Italian ballet - List of dance companies - Meg Stuart - Opera ballet - Sasha Waltz - Scotch reel - Set dance - Physically integrated dance
To cleanup: Contra dance - Salsa (dance) - Dandiya - Lead and follow
To unbias:
To check for copyvios:
To merge: List of dancers and List of dance personalities‎ as per AfD discussion
Substubs needing expansion: see /substubs
To destub: Amir Hossain Babu - Canada Dance Festival - Dance etiquette - Flash dance - more
Needing references: Chorus line - specifically verifying that each girl actually started out as a chorine
To create: Broadway dance - Country Western Dance International - Dance and cinema - Dance and society - German folk dancing - Latin swing - Post-structuralist ballet - Push (dance) - Salon dance - Shuffle dance - Swing boogie - World Dance Alliance - Xavier Le Roy - more
Wanted Pics/Graphics: Category:Dance articles needing images

It is requested that a photograph be included in this article to improve its quality.

Wikipedians in Australia may be able to help!

The external tool WordPress Openverse may be able to locate suitable images on Flickr and other web sites.

Upload

Requested move 16 March 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 22:55, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Shuffle dance → Melbourne shuffle – Someone previously moved it from the original Melbourne shuffle, to Shuffle dance, without giving any real reason other than their personal opinion. As per WP:RECOGNIZABLE and WP:COMMONNAME the article should be named according to the citations. Claims regarding the disputed nature of "Melbourne" part of the name, the history and origin story were un-cited and completely bias and not written from a nuetral point of view, based entirely on Youtube videos and original research and not even remotely verifiable, no reliable source disputes the Melbourne origins, in-fact the Age newspaper had this to say:

To the untrained eye it might look like a cross between the chicken dance and a foot-stomping robot. But to the young nightclubbers who spend countless hours mastering it, the Melbourne shuffle is an art form, and recognised in international dance circles as Melbourne's own : https://www.theage.com.au/national/dance-trance-20021207-gduw8a.html

All citations that refer to the dance by name refer to it as the "Melbourne shuffle", not even a single reliable citation refers to merely the "shuffle dance". Bacondrum (talk) 00:30, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support as per COMMONNAME - I've never once heard or seen this referred to as "Shuffle dance".... It's reffered to as "Melbourne Shuffle" almost everywhere. –Davey2010^Talk 02:11, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. The article was moved to this title after a formal RM discussion found no objection. If it’s moved, it should be to just Melbourne shuffle; the disambiguation isn’t needed.—Cúchullain ^t/c 02:44, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, I've changed the title request. I'm not having a go at you or the person who made the 2018 move request, but it seems odd that the title was changed without any citations or evidence to back up the change. Surely the move should still require citations from reliable sources and that the claim be verifiable? There wasn't a single reliable source to back the original move and related assertions, surely it should not have been done just because someone thought it should, I didn't think mere personal opinion was grounds for such a change.Bacondrum (talk) 03:06, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support - looking at this: Many other all-Black shows, including “Runnin’ Wild,” “Chocolate Dandies” and “Blackbirds” of 1928, also played to enthusiastic American audiences in the 1920s and 1930s. Tap combined elements of African-influenced shuffle dances, English clog dancing, and Irish jigs. - it seems that the generic term "Shuffle dance" was around way before the 1980s. --Gonnym (talk) 07:52, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Cuchullain: Can an uninvolved editor, you perhaps, close and move this then, there's a clear consensus and it's been 8 days now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bacondrum (talk • contribs)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Is this the dance going viral on TikTok?[edit]

On TikTok, there are a gazillion videos of a shuffle dance[1], and it looks fairly like the video on this page. I can only find one reference to Melbourne, though, in a YouTube description here (not the most reliable source). Is this the shuffle being adopted there? If so, we definitely need to give this page a big update. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 04:52, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]