Talk:Jonita Lattimore

Jonita Lattimore was a Music good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
May 15, 2010	Good article nominee	Not listed
June 6, 2010	Peer review	Reviewed
July 18, 2010	Good article nominee	Not listed
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on May 20, 2010. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Jonita Lattimore* performed at the opening weekend at the current homes for the Boston Landmarks Orchestra and the Grant Park Music Festival?*
Current status: Former good article nominee

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jonita Lattimore/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: ..:CK:.. ^(talk2me) 05:58, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry to inform the users associated with the article that I am quick-failing the article for the following reasons.

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose quality:

B. MoS compliance:
Overlinking, linking to pages that don't exist, grammar, paragraph structure. ect.. ect..
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. References to sources:

B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

I see you quick-failed Jonita Lattimore. There is a problem with the permalinks on the Sun-Times articles. I have a call into the Chicago Public Library. If you assumed that each failed URL were to a valid print edition page, this would pass the citations. I don't think that almost any of the images are improperly licensed. Can you please elaborate. With this many images if only one or two are improperly licensed, you have misevaluated the images section.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I may need to tag the ProQuest newspapers with membership required. I think if you take into account the Newsbank permalink error and a possible need to refine the ProQuest links as membership required, this would pass several of the sections above.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:55, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Renomination for GA??[edit]

Why was this article renominated for GA after zero effort was put into bettering the article? This is one of the most difficult articles to read that I've ever come across. It doesn't flow, and it's not engaging. It's like reading a shopping list of Jonita's accomplishments in paragraph form, is loaded with redlinks, and so on and so on. What this article needs is a serious peer review, not a GA nom. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 21:13, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

THANK YOU! Ive been trying to explain this for the past 2 hours! ..:CK:.. ^(talk2me) 21:24, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have to ask the same thing. For example, the first paragraph under Personal is just a series of sentences thrown together, seemingly without any attempt to group even subjects together. Xtzou (Talk) 22:50, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Jonita Lattimore/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Tim Pierce (talk) 15:32, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS):
Prose: Most of the content in this article consists of a semi-chronological list of Lattimore's performances. I have to guess that some of these performances were more significant, well-received, notable than others, but the article doesn't give much sense as to which are which. I would like to see some summary of critical responses to her work, for example, and perhaps have the article focus on her most prominent performances. There is very little structure at all to the article, and it includes one {{very long}} template that I think is still appropriate.

MoS: leave out some of the wikilinks to common terms (e.g. piano, trumpet, jazz, rhythm and blues. Most of the wikilinks are good and appropriate, but it makes the article so dense with links that it is especially important not to add unnecessary links.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
I have not exhaustively checked references for accuracy, but the article is scrupulously referenced and footnoted. Good job.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
The article does cover major aspects of Lattimore's career, but lacks focus and (as mentioned above) fails to address some crucial matters of interest like critical reactions.
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
Very stable, mostly static since May 2010.
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
No images at all, so no inappropriate use is possible. This article really ought to have at least one image of the singer, though.
Overall: you've done a great job on references in this article, but the prose and structure need a great deal of work for it to reach GA status. I see that a couple of sentences got reworded and cleaned up after the previous failed GA, but I think it really needs a substantial top-to-bottom rewrite.
Pass/Fail:

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