Talk:Fallout (video game)

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DateProcessResult
July 19, 2021Good article nomineeListed
May 14, 2022Guild of Copy EditorsCopyedited
May 14, 2022Peer reviewReviewed
June 19, 2022Featured article candidateNot promoted
July 30, 2022Featured article candidateNot promoted
October 3, 2022Featured article candidatePromoted
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on August 5, 2021.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Fallout was considered a risky project by developer Interplay Entertainment and was threatened with cancellation three times?
Current status: Featured article

3 recruitable NPCs from The Brotherhood[edit]

It's possible to recieve a powerful support of 3 warriors from The Brotherhood of Steel, however they appear only at one place - The Military Base. To get them, the character have to visit the area of base, come back to The Brotherhood, and convince The Elders of attacing The Base and giving him a support. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nepireus (talk • contribs) 10:58:26, August 19, 2007 (UTC).

Sources[edit]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:39, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Improved to Good Article status by Lazman321 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:34, 20 July 2021 (UTC).[reply]

  • General eligibility:
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article reached GA status within the past week, is necessarily well sourced, neutrally written and free of copyvios. All in all it is a shoe-in nomination except I think isn't quite hooky enough, so I'm going to suggest some alts from the article. BuySomeApples (talk) 20:00, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • ALT1:... that the developers of the video game Fallout originally meant for it to be a sequel to Wasteland, but were unable to get the licensing rights from EA? Source:[6]
  • ALT2:... that Fallout developer Tim Cain wrote the game's prologue about the bleakness of war while watching an episode of the Simpsons? Source:same as ALT1
@Lazman321: what are your thoughts on these hooks?BuySomeApples (talk) 00:38, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't honestly know. I was already going to propose hooks of my own. It seems to me we have an agreement over the hook saying that Fallout was originally going to be a sequel to Wasteland; though then again, one of my proposals could of something you hadn't thought of. Here are my proposals. Lazman321 (talk) 02:28, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I like ALT3 and ALT5 . ALT6 might be a little subjective even though Fallout is widely considered a good game (I personally enjoy it). ALT4 I think might also be a little underwhelming. Do you have a preference between those two @Lazman321: or do you want me to leave it up to the promoter?

Description of the setting incomplete/inaccurate[edit]

I think there should be a more detailed overview of the setting. Currently the "Setting" section states that "Survivors on the surface live off the salvage of the old world", which is a somewhat incomplete/inaccurate and could lead the reader to believe that this is an average/tropey post-apocalypse setting where everyone lives in squalor and has forgotten how to build/maintain architecture, keep their living spaces clean, how to grow crops, etc. (which is pretty much how the Fallout universe is depicted in the Bethesda games).

Settlements in Fallout are shown to practice agriculture (Shady Sands and The Hub cultivate crops and raise livestock), having somewhat functional societies, and trading with other settlements. And while many of the game's buildings predate the war, not all of them can be described as ruins, and Shady Sands is an entirely post-war settlement that seems to use adobe construction.

The stereotypical post-apocalypse depiction of a humanity that lives in dirty, rubble-filled ruins and mostly subsists on scavenged pre-war food items only started with Fallout 3 I believe. That game's setting is very exaggerated and one-dimensional, whereas the earlier games were more though-out and realistic.

I'm not familiar with the article's sources, so I'm not sure if any of them describe these aspects of the setting. But for a game as well-known as this, there must be at least one or two sources out there that mentions these things. --Veikk0.ma 21:05, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Fallout 1" as common name[edit]

I restored a simple note that I added long ago and was removed at some point when this article was revamped. I believe it subtly fits nicely in the nested notelist without being an eyesore, and is useful to some extent (e.g. someone may somehow think Fallout Tactics was first). I see the game called Fallout 1 by the community and gaming outlets all the time. Is this not fitting?~Sıgehelmus♗(Tøk) 07:33, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sigehelmus: I don't really see the use of this footnote. Honestly, it's not something I've ever seen discussed in sources of this game probably because it's so typical of creative works like this one. Referring to the first work in a popular series by its title + "1" as a retronym is very common and trivial to call attention to. Furthermore, I've never seen anyone confuse Fallout Tactics for the first game in the series. I've removed the footnote. Lazman321 (talk) 23:11, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with Lazman. -- ferret (talk) 23:52, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it's too obvious to say. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:20, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So be it, it's alright. I think that then (and I can't find it it does exist) there should be something in the MoS for games articles about retronyms. ~Sıgehelmus♗(Tøk) 03:27, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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