Talk:Bud Lea

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Review: May 14, 2024. (Reviewed version).

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A fact from Bud Lea appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 15 April 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that even though he read the articles of sportswriter Bud Lea "religiously", Vince Lombardi often made his job difficult whenever he interviewed him?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bud Lea.

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Lightburst talk 16:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that even though he read Bud Lea's articles "religiously", Vince Lombardi often made the sportswriter's job difficult whenever he was interviewed? Source: "While Lombardi religiously read Lea's coverage before starting his work day, he never made it easy on him at a time when the Milwaukee writers often had to interview the coach by telephone."
- Reviewed: Hale's Law and 2011 Vancouver Stanley Cup riot

Moved to mainspace by Gonzo fan2007 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 38 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:45, 19 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

the article was moved to main March 19, it is 4851 characters and it was nominated the same day so it qualifies for DYK. The article is neutral and has the correct inline citations. Two QPQs have been completed to assist with the backlog. The hook is interesting to an audience that knows American Football and might have enough to interest other readers. The hook is cited in the article at the end of the sentence. For promotors, the second part of the hook is supported by "Lea noted that Lombardi was the most challenging person he covered, often providing short answers or not answering at all" in the article. I do not find evidence of plagiarism and the article has a free pic of Bud Lea which could be used if a promotor wanted to use it. Bruxton (talk) 18:46, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

Passed. Lightburst (talk) 00:17, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Bud Lea/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Gonzo fan2007 (talk · contribs) 18:53, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Lightburst (talk · contribs) 00:31, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it well written?
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
Journalism career section:

'After college, Lea got a job" suggest some other language than got?

Revised. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"In 1953, the he joined"

Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"reoccurring"" not a word

Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"team's 1–10–1 record in the 1959" extra word?

Fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be too many uses of "Lea" (44) - suggest substituting he in some places.

I removed some. I am only counting 23, with 2 in the lead, 1 in the first section, 14 in the second and 2 in the last. Note a few of these instances are essential (his name in the first sentence, the Bud Lea Award (proper noun) and always starting with "Lea" at the beginning of each section). « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
comment: Unsure about citation one which is a funeral home obit. Can it be replaced with RS?

I got it down to citing only 3 things, none of which are controversial: his actual birthdate (literally no other source mentions this, the closest being one source stating the year he was born in); an anecdote from his college days about going into journalism; and that he was a selector for various hall of fames. Again, reading the essay WP:OBITUARIES and just a general understanding of WP:RS, I think this is fine. Let me know what you think. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes we know for sure that he was born in 1928 The date is not contentious, - I will be in the area, so I will go to St. Mary of the Hill Cemetery to see where he is buried and then I can take a snapshot of his headstone. Lightburst (talk) 17:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Images that have been uploaded. His birthday. I will add an image of the headstone and you may either remove it or change it if you like. Lightburst (talk) 20:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome! Great addition, thank you! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:46, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

C. It contains no original research:

D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
I have checked many of the citations and they line up with the information. Lightburst (talk) 17:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
Is it neutral?
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
Free

B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
Relevant images.
Overall:
Pass or Fail:
Good article. Lightburst (talk) 00:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.