Talk:2024 Indian general election

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Hello sir im a new editor here but i wanted to say a few things that the current lok sabha page has been listed with things particularly favouring one side of the party and i think wikipedia is known for its transparency and equality of knowledge and usage of sources such as Al Jazeera who has been an known to be a partial based news channel who has been should be stopped instead use indian news sources or outlets like BBC etc Thank you AravindEditor (talk) 14:40, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources. You can see that your assumptions are false and some of your recommendations are more likely to be judged as unreliable. Borgenland (talk) 14:46, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's actually funny cause many Indian news portals are blacklisted for no reason and the politically motivated and controversial once are operating freely and openly!
The irony tho AravindEditor (talk) 15:33, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You also ought to be warned of your wholesale, irresponsible and arbitrary removal of references here. And your WP:FORUM behavior and lack of disregard for prior established source consensus, as your recent reply shows. Borgenland (talk) 15:35, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I dont want to turn this into a debate but people like you should know the reality of al jazeera etc before using them as source how much credibiliy they have in terms of maintaining neutrality you might even know the fact that is a government funded new channel AravindEditor (talk) 16:48, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you have complaints about that, then go open a discussion on [[1]] instead of trying to dictate what sources to use based on your personal whims and WP:IDNHT attitude. Borgenland (talk) 16:54, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Al Jazeera is deemed a reliable source by Wikipedia, regardless of it being state-owned. See WP:ALJAZEERA for more detail. Ok123l (talk) 18:37, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay im sorry for that. AravindEditor (talk) 18:42, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

okay thanks for the "help" sir. AravindEditor (talk) 16:59, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kautilya3, Borgenland, Wikipedialuva, BlackOrchidd, Manasbose, Mikeblas, Ok123l, Sanalchalil, Naren.Ayinala, Ku423winz1, and Kkuchnir: The, "Issues" section is a bloated list of allegations. You must trim it.-Haani40 (talk) 08:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have yesterday removed two totally irrelevant topics that have nothing to do with elections. I will try to further trim them when I'm free.
Also suggest other editors
Electoral bonds, Ram Temple, and maybe generic issues like corruption and unemployment should be kept. Howeve, trimming is necessary. Manasbose (talk) 08:11, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ram temple is going to be one of the most important issue in this election, especially its effect in the Hindi belt. Electoral bonds is also one of the biggest issues that has come into the politics just before the election. Of course some irrelevant portions can be trimmed. Ku423winz1 (talk) 09:24, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
References must directly mention this election to be retained. This article should also be protected to prevent trolls from inserting all sorts of frivolous edits in this contentious topic. Borgenland (talk) 08:14, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why do I have to trim it? I haven't added anything to that section. If you think there is material that doesn't belong, you can remove that material directly. -- Mikeblas (talk) 15:26, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is this a Reliable source?[edit]

Borgenland, Kautilya3, is this a reliable source for this article?-Haani40 (talk) 12:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is a WP:PRIMARY source, and needs WP:SECONDARY sources for validation (assuming it is authentic). -- Kautilya3 (talk) 12:15, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:PRIMARY, but I am against it because it appears is a promotional website that is directly named after a candidate in this election. Borgenland (talk) 12:16, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Borgenland: Can there be a section for Major decisions and this be used as a source to mention some things done? -Haani40 (talk) 12:42, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Probably the background or issues. However all sources must be directly connected to the election. I have removed edits that do not strictly confide to these standards. See WP:PROMOTION, WP:NOTADVOCACY, and WP:NOTADVERT for further guidance. Borgenland (talk) 12:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is about the prior achievements based on which they are asking for votes in this election. Can that source be used?-Haani40 (talk) 12:52, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, it doesn't mention this election, so I guess it can't be used.-Haani40 (talk) 12:55, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kautilya3, Borgenland, Wikipedialuva, BlackOrchidd, Manasbose, Ok123l, Sanalchalil, Naren.Ayinala, Ku423winz1, Kkuchnir, Boyinaroom, Akuindo, Davemck, Kalpesh Manna 2002, Maphumor, CapnJackSp, Priyanshu Baruah 2002, Yutah123, Vkwiki100, Ratnahastin, and Sachin126: Can this be used in this article or is it, "promotional"?-Haani40 (talk) 05:30, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
DH is an RS. The link can be used with attribution WP:A BlackOrchidd (talk) 05:37, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BlackOrchidd: I have received a good reply/replies here and I feel you should read them too!-Haani40 (talk) 12:56, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unrelated to this election[edit]

@Borgenland and Kautilya3: The text in the, "Party campaigns" section under the, "Indian National Developmental Inclusive Alliance" and "Indian National Congress" headings are about rallies and are unrelated to this election. Will you remove those?-Haani40 (talk) 12:27, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is widely understood that holding an election rally is part of the campaign. Borgenland (talk) 12:30, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Borgenland: For your information, the, "Electoral Bonds", "Congress Party funds" and "Investigations into alleged corruption cases" sections under the heading, "Major election issues" don't mention the election. -Haani40 (talk) 17:33, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The refs do, and Congress has explicitly stated that it was having difficulty campaigning in this election thanks to the issue. Finally, what do you think is the purpose of an electoral bond? I suggest you look into synonyms and keywords related to what an election is and how it is done. Borgenland (talk) 17:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Manasbose, Kautilya3, Ku423winz1, and Borgenland: The sentence,

Hartosh Singh Bal, a journalist for the current affairs magazine The Caravan told Agence France-Presse that the move by the government agencies indicated their behavior as “handmaidens of the ruling party to cow down the political opposition”.

is a statement by a relatively unknown person - should it be removed?-Haani40 (talk) 04:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
An unknown person would not have had their own Wikipedia article. Borgenland (talk) 04:22, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Citation required tag removal[edit]

Borgenland, you have removed the Citation required tag with this edit. Please add it back or provide a source for it.-Haani40 (talk) 15:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Same ref as below with paraphrase to avoid copyright violations. I suggest you read the entire thing before jumping to conclusions. Borgenland (talk) 15:23, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sourced content removed[edit]

@Kautilya3, Borgenland, Wikipedialuva, BlackOrchidd, Manasbose, Ok123l, Sanalchalil, Naren.Ayinala, Ku423winz1, Kkuchnir, Boyinaroom, Akuindo, Davemck, Kalpesh Manna 2002, Maphumor, Articleo, CapnJackSp, Priyanshu Baruah 2002, Yutah123, and Vkwiki100: Ratnahastin has removed this but I feel it is with respect to this election and should be restored. Please comment! -Haani40 (talk) 10:17, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ratnahastin has valid reasons so I am not touching said edit. Borgenland (talk) 10:24, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Read WP:SOAPBOX. You cannot use the concerning politician's own promotional speech to add content. Ratnahastin (talk) 10:48, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ratnahastin I am not in the participation of such edit in that article. Articleo (talk) 11:14, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Citation appears to be unrelated[edit]

The following citation numbers in the para for "Indian National Congress" under "Candidates" section appears to be unrelated to the information mentioned therein:

1. Citation number 10 - Appropriate source : https://indianexpress.com/article/india/congress-1st-list-39-candidates-lok-sabha-polls-rahul-gandhi-wayanad-9203478/ Archived Source : https://web.archive.org/web/20240407055003/https://indianexpress.com/article/india/congress-1st-list-39-candidates-lok-sabha-polls-rahul-gandhi-wayanad-9203478/

2. Citation number 11 - Appropriate source : https://indianexpress.com/article/india/congress-releases-2nd-list-of-43-candidates-gaurav-gogoi-nakul-nath-9210291/ Archived Source : https://web.archive.org/web/20240407055214/https://indianexpress.com/article/india/congress-releases-2nd-list-of-43-candidates-gaurav-gogoi-nakul-nath-9210291/

3. Citation number 59 - Appropriate Source : https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/congress-releases-3rd-list-of-candidates-for-lok-sabha-elections/articleshow/108685359.cms Archived Source : https://web.archive.org/web/20240407055610/https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/congress-releases-3rd-list-of-candidates-for-lok-sabha-elections/articleshow/108685359.cms

4. Citation number 141 - Appropriate Source : https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/congress-releases-fifth-list-of-3-candidates-for-lok-sabha-polls/articleshow/108753762.cms Archived Source : https://web.archive.org/web/20240407055743/https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/congress-releases-fifth-list-of-3-candidates-for-lok-sabha-polls/articleshow/108753762.cms Saket Sharma (talk) 05:59, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - Thank you for pointing out the mistake. Ok123l (talk) 13:18, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rearrangement of "Major election issues" in Alphabetical Order[edit]

In tandem with the "Campaign" section of "2024 United States presidential election" which is arranged in the Alphabetical Order, should the "Major election issues" here be rearranged? Saket Sharma (talk) 18:13, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to see the opinions of other editors with regards to this request. Putting "Congress Party fund predicament" before "Unemployment and "Electoral Bonds" considering the importance is off-putting. Ok123l (talk) 13:22, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Parties Section[edit]

Naam Tamilar Katchi(NTK) is contesting in all 39 seats of TamilNadu and 1 seat in Puducherry, which can be included in the respective section. Source: https://www.thehindu.com/elections/lok-sabha/lok-sabha-polls-naam-tamilar-katchi-announces-candidates-for-tn-and-puducherry-fields-women-from-20-seats/article67985354.ece Anburay (talk) 14:01, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2024[edit]

This: out of a population of 1.44 (144 crore) billion

Should be: out of a population of 1.44 billion (144 crore) Rdr78 (talk) 03:09, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done RudolfRed (talk) 03:31, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Manifesto not added[edit]

The new manifesto announced hasn’t been shown in the page.Please look into it. Cleansir1234 (talk) 09:57, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the news nomination[edit]

Turnout[edit]

people are changing turnout number a lot and they are citing subpar sources even when good sources are available. DataCrusade1999 (talk) 11:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I updated voter turnout using a report published by the newspaper The Hindu, which was reverted by @Dhruv edits labelling my reference as outdated. However, the reference they are citing was published on 20th April 2024, while my citation was published on 22nd April 2024. Indian Express also provides the same figure of 62% voter turnout. ParanormalRat (talk) 10:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ParanormalRat The reference you have added only provides turnout declared till 9 pm on election day. Another Indian Express article has reported 66.1% turnout, which will also increase until ECI officially declare the final turnout after considering postal ballots as well. India Today reported 65.5%. Since different sources are reporting different turnouts (and all of these will keep increasing until all EVM and postal votes are considered), the source with the highest turnout should be added to the article. Dhruv edits (talk) 11:03, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but the election finished before 9 PM, so the figures at 9PM are final. Since these sources do not agree with each other, I think we should remove the voter turnout figure for now and add it later when ECI publishes it. ParanormalRat (talk) 11:10, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ParanormalRat Please read the refs completely. Voting in many stations went till late night where people had already reached the stations before 5/6 PM. Also the figure reported by ECI at 9 PM doesn't include all votes cast till 9 PM. Figures shared by ECI is based on approximate trends. The actual turnout is published 2-3 months after the election. Until then, highest turnout reported by reliable sources is added to the article. Similar process has been done on other Indian election articles. Dhruv edits (talk) 11:26, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dhruv edits I don't see any reference saying that the voting continued afer 9PM. Also, I am not sure if Amar Ujala counts as a reliable reference. As far as I understand, The Hindu and Indian Express are much better sources. I would like to ask other members for opinion on the matter. In my opinion, let's remove the turnout percentage from the page for now until we resolve this or the Election Commission produces the data. ParanormalRat (talk) 11:57, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ParanormalRat Most reliable sources have reported a turnout of 65.5% for phase 1 - MSN Indian Express Business Standard Firstpost Times of India and India Today. Changing the turnout to 65.5%. Dhruv edits (talk) 12:19, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dhruv edits Looks good to me. Thanks. ParanormalRat (talk) 12:34, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
IE article says that voter turnout is 66.1%, not 65.5% here:- https://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/what-phase-1-voter-turnout-says-about-bjps-chances-at-the-polls-9289186
This article was written on 25th April, which is 5 days after the voting for First phase had ended. I request either of you to change the turnout figure of Phase I from 65.5% to 66.1% if you find my suggestion valid.
Thanks! FofS&E (talk) 23:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@FofS&E Done. Dhruv edits (talk) 02:38, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
can we use up or down arrow to show if the turnout is higher or lower than 2019 elections?? I think it would be useful. I'm also aware that we can't go beyond 2019 because not all general election in India have 7 Phases. DataCrusade1999 (talk) 08:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DataCrusade1999 That is not useful, since no. of constituencies in each phase of 2019 is different from that of 2024, making this comparison futile. Dhruv edits (talk) 11:44, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
didn't know that. yeah lets drop it DataCrusade1999 (talk) 16:01, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dhruv edits@DataCrusade1999 Someone changed the voter turnout figures to 68.29 and 68.49 again without discussion.ParanormalRat (talk) 12:28, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ParanormalRat. There are hardly any other reliable sources for these turnouts. Please revert it back to the consensus turnout. Dhruv edits (talk) 14:04, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ram Mandir[edit]

Calling for a rename of the section because some people believe that Modi's allegations of infiltrators in April and subsequent legal actions, plus the fact that the BJP had to explicitly address separate allegations of incitement against other communities (in an reference mentioning Kerala) are still part of the Ram Mandir consecration ceremony. Borgenland (talk) 14:38, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect naming of person[edit]

Hi, not an editior, did not read guidelines. Noticed that the election issues portion mentions Mr. Revanth Reddy (Chief Minister of Telangana) being arrested, while in fact Mr. Arun Reddy (as noted in the reference provided) who was arrested. Editors. kindly change at the earliest. 36.255.86.46 (talk) 07:15, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Dhruv edits (talk) 07:53, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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