Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Judaism
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This is a collection of discussions on the deletion of articles related to Judaism. It is one of many deletion lists coordinated by WikiProject Deletion sorting. Anyone can help maintain the list on this page.
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Judaism topics[edit]
Camp Tel Chai[edit]
- Camp Tel Chai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redirect to Habonim Dror. Fails WP:NORG, no WP:SIGCOV, no WP:GNG. Both cited sources are WP:SPS that do not establish WP:GNG. Longhornsg (talk) 08:47, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Camp Amal[edit]
- Camp Amal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redirect to Habonim Dror, merging what's encyclopedic. Fails WP:NORG with no WP:SIGCOV for an otherwise non-notable summer camp. Both sources provided are WP:SPS and do not support WP:GNG. Longhornsg (talk) 08:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Camp JCA Shalom[edit]
- Camp JCA Shalom (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redirect to Jewish summer camp. Fails WP:NORG. No WP:SIGCOV of otherwise non-notable summer camp. Longhornsg (talk) 08:42, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Judaism in Australia[edit]
- Judaism in Australia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Delete. This article is basically a summary verison of History of the Jews in Australia. Both articles are basically talking about the same thing but one is more detailed. The list can be moved to Australian Jews and also incorporated into List of Oceanian Jews. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:02, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- I feel like this is more of a merge and redirect than an outright deletion case. BD2412 T 23:28, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- @BD2412, if that is the best approach, I would agree with merge and redirect. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:43, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge with History of the Jews in Australia I agree that the two titles essentially refer to the same topic. Perhaps merging the History and Demographics sections, then keeping the People section and renaming the article to something like "List of notable Jewish Australians" could be on the cards, which can also be section merged from List of Oceanian Jews#Australia. — GMH Melbourne (talk) 15:14, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Simon Rockower Award[edit]
- Simon Rockower Award (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Merge into American Jewish Press Association. WP:NOTDIRECTORY, no WP:SIGCOV. Longhornsg (talk) 20:33, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge: I agree with the proposal. Simon Rockower should be merged into American Jewish Press Association, and then converted into a redirect.
- Eric Schucht (talk) 16:28, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Carl Schleicher[edit]
- Carl Schleicher (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There is already a draft for this that has been rejected a few times. Pretty sure the author of the draft got tired and moved it to mainspace with no concensus. 48JCL (talk) 22:41, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Was wrong. Turns out that the author of the draft is different than the user that created the page. The person who created the page has been not warned however has created NUMEROUS speedily deleted articles through copyright. Assuming that the user that created the page just wanted to seem like the one who created it, even though they very obviously copied from the draft- which still exists, by the way. 48JCL (talk) 22:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Of course I copied from the draft. This guy already has articles in Russian, Hebrew, Spanish, and Galician (?!), so I don't understand why there are issues with the English version. This is an obviously notable Jewish painter; Wikipedia has used many of his paintings across a few articles, such as on the Talmud. Ethanbas (talk) 23:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Ethanbas Then just resubmit it, if you think it is "obviously notable" 48JCLTALK 11:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Ethanbas Your argument is a different version of WP:WAX. Look at Draft:Nahal Rafiah. Just because it has a Hebrew version does not immediately make it notable. 48JCLTALK 11:27, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- I generally ignore Wikipedia essays and only follow the policies and guidelines, so I do not accept the premises behind WP:WAX. I agree with you that an article existing in just one other language does not make it notable; however, I get a feeling that this article about Carl Schleicher would exist without any issues in *every other language* except in English. Maybe the original creator of the draft had a poor first draft which attracted (now undue) attention? Ethanbas (talk) 18:27, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Of course I copied from the draft. This guy already has articles in Russian, Hebrew, Spanish, and Galician (?!), so I don't understand why there are issues with the English version. This is an obviously notable Jewish painter; Wikipedia has used many of his paintings across a few articles, such as on the Talmud. Ethanbas (talk) 23:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
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- @48JCL, why do you think he is non-notable? FortunateSons (talk) 11:04, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- The reason why I am putting this for AfD is because it is completely stolen from a draft. Also, wouldn’t it still be in draftspace, as that draft was rejected twice and never touched again? 48JCLTALK 11:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- @FortunateSons 48JCLTALK 11:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- @48JCL, I'm not sure on the specific policy implications. However, I don't think we should delete an article about a notable person if it is avoidable. Do you happen to know what the policy on this sort of thing is? FortunateSons (talk) 11:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Here are the comments left by the reviewer:
- Comment: This draft, as written, does not appear to indicate that one of the biographical notability criteria is satisfied. If one of the criteria is satisfied, please revise this draft appropriately, with a reliable source, if necessary stating on the talk page or in AFC comments which criterion is met, and resubmit. It is the responsibility of the submitter to show that a subject satisfies a notability criterion. You may ask for advice about the biographical notability criteria at the Teahouse. In particular, see and refer to WP:NARTIST for notability, which is the guideline that the subject should be evaluated against. Where are his works on display? What has been written about him by art critics? Robert McClenon (talk) 22:41, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: Where are his works on display? Robert McClenon (talk) 22:39, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: This page has been moved back from article space to draft space. Please read the comments by the draftifying reviewer and address them. Do not resubmit this draft without addressing the comments of the previous reviewer. If you do not understand why this article was sent back to draft space, please ask the reviewer rather than simply resubmitting. You may ask for advice on how to improve this draft at the Teahouse or on the talk pages of any of the reviewers. (The declining reviewers may advise you to ask for advice at the Teahouse.) If this draft is resubmitted without any improvement or with very little improvement, it will probably be rejected. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:38, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
- 48JCLTALK 11:20, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- That provides context, but unfortunately does not answer any of my questions? FortunateSons (talk) 12:16, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- @FortunateSons It could be notable who knows? But all the real sources providing notability like BBC are dead links. The references are formatted very sloppily. Using ref tags to make Efns is definitely not something a normal person would do. 48JCLTALK 03:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, the article is less than great, agreed so far. However, being in significant need of improvement is not a deletion criteria.
- The dead BBC links are a problem, and I couldn’t find an archived one, so this probably does not meet notability criteria now. FortunateSons (talk) 06:16, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- @FortunateSons It could be notable who knows? But all the real sources providing notability like BBC are dead links. The references are formatted very sloppily. Using ref tags to make Efns is definitely not something a normal person would do. 48JCLTALK 03:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- That provides context, but unfortunately does not answer any of my questions? FortunateSons (talk) 12:16, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Foundation for Jewish Camp[edit]
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Delete or merge into Jewish summer camp. The page was originally created 15 years ago by a COI account, and since then per WP:BEFORE, no WP:SIGCOV found on this organization (beyond fleeting media mentions) that would establish WP:NORG and justify a standalone article. Longhornsg (talk) 21:09, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge with Jewish summer camp. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:16, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Merge per above --Welcome to Pandora (talk) 08:32, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Jewish summer camp. I see no way of including information from this article into the target page. Why should this specific organization be mentioned and none of the others? A redirect is the best way to preserve the edit history without creating problems on the new page. Broc (talk) 11:31, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Michel Pontremoli[edit]
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Doesn't meet WP:BASIC C F A 💬 02:06, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment could you elaborate on why none of the sources meet BASIC in your opinion? FortunateSons (talk) 09:45, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 01:50, 3 June 2024 (UTC)- Keep the biography in Educational Institutions Pamphlets (which is actually a 1950 L'Ecole National D'Administration book) plus short mentions in La Rabia De La Expresion, Le conseil d'état et le régime de Vichy", and the State Council plaque should be sufficient for WP:NBASIC. There are other short mentions, perhaps some longer ones, on GScholar. Oblivy (talk) 02:34, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Miscellany for deletion[edit]
- Wikipedia:No bigots, see Wikipedia talk:No bigots#Bigot is an uncivil word, this essay should be deleted.
Proposed deletion[edit]
- 613 Torah Avenue (via WP:PROD on 13 September 2023)
Redirects for deletion[edit]
Deletion review[edit]
Templates[edit]
Categories[edit]
CfD[edit]
- See Category:Bathsheba (Dec 31, 2021)
- See Category:Ahasuerus (Dec 31, 2021)
- See Category:Ahab (Dec 31, 2021)
- See CfDeletion of Students of the Mir Yeshiva (November 28, 2020)
CfD[edit]
- See CfDeletion of 9 Categories for Sri Lankan people of Fooian/Jewish descent (July 2, 2020)
Merge[edit]
- See: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 June 8#Category:Hebrew names of Jewish holy days proposal to merge Category:Hebrew names of Jewish holy days to Category:Jewish holy days (June 8, 2020)
CfD[edit]
- See Category:History of Hanukkah (Dec 31, 2021)
Requested moves[edit]
- Talk:History of the Jews in Abkhazia#Requested move 5 June 2020 – result: not moved